tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7936855.post4068693366303439711..comments2023-10-09T05:27:59.888-04:00Comments on Why Won't You Grow?!: The Intention Behind the Birthday PresentDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02587995461067202017noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7936855.post-6579592566475897422015-09-22T14:18:46.311-04:002015-09-22T14:18:46.311-04:00It will be interesting to just drop this comment l...It will be interesting to just drop this comment link here, after all the years since this was originally posted.<br /><br />http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/a-serious-discussion-of-which-harry-potter-characters-are-best-in-bed.php<br /><br />I hope that the link stays active as a time capsule to another window on this argument.<br /><br />Still haven't changed my mind about Ginny's intentions, though.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02587995461067202017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7936855.post-82927113758610464732009-08-20T14:15:39.973-04:002009-08-20T14:15:39.973-04:00David, I know your coworkers, very well, actually,...David, I know your coworkers, very well, actually, and this is not a slight against them, but honestly, they have no idea what they are talking about. They are driven by their own visions of what they would want to do in that situation, not by an understanding of the setting, the characters, the world, Rowling's intentions, the plot, or anything else actually contained within the books or their author. This is the same kind of problem some historians do when they analyze ancient history as though the facts should be held up to the standards of the present day. It's called presentism., and it's dishonest history.<br /><br />A careful reading of J.K. Rowling, both in terms of character development, world setting, and morality in the books, along with the genre, very clearly supports the thesis that Ginny was not offering more than a kiss. She liked Harry, and it is very in keeping with the sort of fairy tale theme implied by the setting, as well as by her countless actions, that Ginny would be pure, as she is consistently portrayed. Yes she snogs, but she wouldn't debase her champion. A kiss is always considered the highest of compliments in fairy tales, and is the ultimate gift. Anything else would be discordant not only with the genre, but with Rowling's methods.<br /><br />There is no suggestion anywhere in any of the books that students' morality veers anywhere beyond snogging, which is to say, making out.<br /><br />Second, Ginny is not an idiot. She knows full well the risks of doing anything else. To imply based on zero evidence that Hermione was helping her by watching the door begs the question, have they read the books? Furthermore, the very fact that Ron does interrupt them substantiates the claim that it would have been too risky. Ginny would not have made such a ridiculous invitation under the same roof with her perilously inflammatory mother, who would have banished Harry from their home instantly and perhaps forever.<br /><br />Interpreting this as offering anything more than a kiss is tantamount to rewriting the story. And if you do that, why bother reading Rowling in the first place? Not content with her fantasy, readers are creating their own.<br /><br />PerkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7936855.post-52367568812000260902009-08-20T13:24:33.738-04:002009-08-20T13:24:33.738-04:00Actually David, I agree with you whole-heartedly a...Actually David, I agree with you whole-heartedly and have had this same discussion with my family (all 3 of my sisters & my mother are HP fans like myself). 2 of my family feel like your friends fell and think she was "offering" sex where myself and 2 other members feel there is no way she was thinking sex only a very passionate kiss.<br /><br />EdieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7936855.post-80906788742929509762009-08-20T09:16:13.197-04:002009-08-20T09:16:13.197-04:00Oh David . . .
I see you continue to fight the go...Oh David . . .<br /><br />I see you continue to fight the good fight. It is a fight for a lost cause, but still.A Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01448437745651100902noreply@blogger.com